{QTtext} {font:Tahoma} {plain} {size:20} {timeScale:30} {width:160} {height:32} {timestamps:absolute} {language:0} [00:00:21.16] I was in Milan... [00:00:25.01] [00:00:25.06] There I picked up a machine gun in parts [00:00:29.02] [00:00:29.08] and put everything into a suitcase, a suitcase from my father. [00:00:32.23] [00:00:33.04] And then I arrived here in Laveno. [00:00:36.06] [00:00:36.10] Here I had to take the boat to bring the gun to the mountains. [00:00:41.17] [00:00:42.09] When I arrived... [00:00:44.12] [00:00:47.07] I got scared and thought, now it's over. [00:00:50.02] [00:00:50.07] They will see me and kill me. [00:00:53.17] [00:00:55.06] come on, put it inside, put it inside. [00:00:57.17] [00:01:31.10] You don’t know what happened in times of war. [00:01:36.03] [00:01:38.12] When you ask young people today, if they know what the partisans did... [00:01:43.06] [00:01:44.07] “Oh, they just created problems”. [00:01:47.21] [00:02:22.07] I had an older brother who was also a partisan. [00:02:27.11] [00:02:31.08] But in our family everyone else was a fascist. [00:02:34.18] [00:02:35.11] We had Mussolini, the leader of fascism [00:02:38.00] [00:02:38.05] All of Italy was at his feet. [00:02:42.02] [00:02:47.04] So... I was a fascist too. [00:02:50.10] [00:02:50.22] I was on fascist manifestations because I was a child. [00:02:54.17] [00:02:55.10] On Saturdays, we always went to the manifestations. [00:02:59.02] [00:03:06.02] Then I met a priest in Cuggiono close to Milan. [00:03:10.10] [00:03:11.00] He explained to us what fascism really is. [00:03:15.08] [00:03:16.12] So then we were a whole group who became anti-fascists. [00:03:21.12] [00:03:35.04] We started working, painted slogans on the walls. [00:03:40.12] [00:03:41.00] Until we started doing bigger things. [00:03:45.19] [00:03:51.10] In Milan they told me to pick a number. [00:03:55.15] [00:03:56.00] I said "seventeen". [00:03:58.09] [00:03:58.19] Because I was seventeen years old. [00:04:01.14] [00:04:17.15] So we started to transport weapons. [00:04:21.16] [00:04:21.23] Because the guys in the mountains they couldn’t move. [00:04:26.13] [00:04:27.03] If they got down, they would have been caught. [00:04:30.01] [00:04:31.06] So it was us women who did this work. [00:04:34.19] [00:04:43.08] There was always a danger that we would get caught. [00:04:47.11] [00:04:47.19] They would at least rape you, if not worse. [00:04:51.22] [00:04:59.04] There was this Osteria where we would all meet. [00:05:03.22] [00:05:04.14] There I met people who wanted to join the partisans. [00:05:07.22] [00:05:08.03] So I took them to the mountains. [00:05:10.20] [00:05:28.09] We, the runner girls, we gave it our all. [00:05:32.12] [00:05:32.17] These were amazing girls. [00:05:34.13] [00:05:35.01] And so many of us died. [00:05:37.00] [00:05:49.07] I was in Scareno and I monitored the infirmary there. [00:05:53.06] [00:05:53.10] The people from the village helped us tremendously. [00:05:56.23] [00:05:57.02] All the villagers. [00:05:59.09] [00:06:08.20] Because their children had all been sent to the war. [00:06:15.09] [00:06:15.15] And everyone was asking: Where are our children? [00:06:22.22] [00:06:25.10] That’s why they were on our side. [00:06:28.22] [00:06:53.22] Sometimes I had to get medicine from the hospital. [00:06:59.02] [00:06:59.13] I would go from Scareno at night... [00:07:01.21] [00:07:03.10] I crossed the river and walked to Esio. [00:07:08.02] [00:07:16.16] The hospital was where it is still today. [00:07:20.09] [00:07:20.19] So the nurse came out at night... [00:07:24.20] [00:07:25.05] She gave me the medicine that I needed. [00:07:29.06] [00:07:47.12] When it was cold there was snow, and sometimes a lot of snow. [00:07:53.02] [00:07:56.00] We adapted. [00:07:57.16] [00:07:57.23] We tried to keep as warm as possible. [00:08:01.13] [00:08:05.07] We didn’t even have wood, sometimes the farmers gave us some. [00:08:09.12] [00:08:09.23] Or when we were very cold, they let us warm up in their houses. [00:08:14.19] [00:08:55.14] Oh how hungry I was... There was not much to eat. [00:09:01.15] [00:09:02.06] If there was something, we always gave it to the sick and wounded. [00:09:08.01] [00:09:12.13] I was as thin as a woodpecker, after the war. [00:09:16.18] [00:09:38.17] And then I helped a lot of Jews. [00:09:42.14] [00:09:47.13] I only spoke to one of them and told him: [00:09:52.03] [00:09:52.08] Tell them to follow me but never to speak to me. [00:09:56.21] [00:10:01.08] They mustn’t speak to me because that was dangerous. [00:10:05.02] [00:10:05.14] If they would catch a Jew they would let them betray [00:10:08.19] [00:10:09.03] and talk... okay. [00:10:11.20] [00:10:36.13] I brought them to Intragna. [00:10:39.13] [00:10:40.00] And in Intragna there were smugglers who brought them to Switzerland. [00:10:45.22] [00:11:28.06] I took Jews, I brought weapons, [00:11:30.21] [00:11:31.08] food, all that... [00:11:32.21] [00:11:33.02] But then it got very dangerous. [00:11:36.19] [00:11:48.20] I had moments when I just wanted to cry. [00:11:52.01] [00:11:53.17] When I got to Pizzo Marona and saw all those dead bodies... [00:11:58.12] [00:11:58.23] I said: This is impossible. [00:12:02.15] [00:12:06.03] Ah, Madonna... I have never been back to Marona. [00:12:11.16] [00:12:17.21] They killed so many there. [00:12:20.21] [00:12:21.09] They threw them into the valley, naked. [00:12:25.01] [00:12:37.52] Is it worth it? [00:12:40.30] [00:12:40.35] To get to be 20 years old and then get killed? [00:12:43.40] [00:13:01.12] I see them again and again, I see their faces. [00:13:03.12] [00:13:03.18] I see my friends in front of me. [00:13:06.16] [00:13:07.12] And now? They are all dead. [00:13:12.05] [00:13:32.15] We have won the war, but what does it even mean. [00:13:37.08] [00:13:43.16] We didn’t even know, what it was that we had won. [00:13:48.09] [00:13:49.06] We haven’t noticed anything. [00:13:52.23] [00:13:54.02] I had hoped that things would change. [00:13:58.18] [00:14:04.10] Even after the war I went to manifestations. [00:14:11.03] [00:14:11.15] We were fighting for a just government. [00:14:15.02] [00:14:21.23] No, please. That such a thing never happens again. [00:14:28.12] [00:14:47.15] There are no more living partisans here anymore. [00:14:51.06] [00:14:51.15] I don’t know a single one. [00:14:54.12] [00:14:55.14] I am the last one, old and senil... No, senil I am not. [00:15:01.04] Blessed are people who don't need heroes.